They are a fuller bag to me. I like a looser bag so I will throw these till they get to a feel I like. If you like a fuller bag these bags are great for you pretty much right away. I knew what they were when I ordered them and was not in a hurry to bring these bags with me right away. The last BG I ordered were Wizard Burnout limited edition. I like the bags but it wasn’t very long and the material started to come apart on the carpet side. But only on one bag. Wish they sold single bags.