Great bags to he able to control. A little bouncy if you don't throw them flat. Mine had quite a bit of loose thread sticking out on a couple of bags that I had to burn down with a lighter, and they were shipped in just a plain shipping bag without any protection. I would hope for $120 they would at least come in some type of packaging but they do not. Also my bags didn't come with the black carpet in the picture, but instead a light grey carpet so just be aware it may not look exactly like the picture. All that being said, I like the way they throw and they will hopefully become less bouncy as they break in.